Saturday, 20 July 2013

Universal Job Match Lies and Risking The Job Centre

They want to CLOSE the Job Centres...
This is What They Want...
This Is What Universal Job Match Website Is For
and get a digital footprint started on EVERYONE

And this is the ill thought plan is meant to help us?

Phil *****
This event is in the first full week of August. What day do people fancy doing Bootle Jobcentre?
Jobcentre Plus week of action: 5-9 August

Paul ****
as long as its direct action count me in or is this something union members cannot partake in during working hrs?

Traski *****
Am a unemployed union member count me in

Phil *****
Workers at the Jobcentre may have difficulty taking part, but we can engage with them during it. It will be direct action, yes. Ideally a sit in/occupation.

Paul ****
well you got me and a few more for an afternoon tea anyday if thats suitable..........Enuf is Enuf

Phil *****
Sound. Just need to pick the best day to get most people.

Bob *****
I gather a "sit in/occupation" means people who need to sign on won't be able to, or will they ?

Phil *****
If you can, do both. If you don't feel confident (fear of reprisals, etc) we can have a picket outside as well.

Bob *****
see my fear is playing into their hands, a fair few of us have refused to use the web site they are telling people "they must use" yet for many/most of us, doing that is not part of our back to work agreement. They want everyone doing job search and logging it online, this way your job search can be checked remotely, so the job center isn't needed. Causing hassle their only gives them another reason to close them. then we are stuck with 0898 costaFiver costaFiver to get help over the phone from someone who can't speak english on a call we cant afford. Meanwhile because their are masses of people unable to job search that way they can open a building, bring in staff and pc's, teach people to use email and jobsearch online (while skimming money off the funding for it all) Like they would of done policing the march. Meanwhile many of us end up with an online digital footprint we don't want. And if you've ever not been paid and experienced what they call "Missed Evidence" as the reason, imagine no one being paid for up to 48 hours and having a system to blame it on. Their already stealing interest on benefits paid into banks (they claim you sign on monday, its in the bank 1am Thursday.. so it apparently takes 3 days to clear, yet its a direct wire transfare, nothing is waiting to clear. OVH do it once a month with the rent, they call it a "Linked Transfer Account" and turn a debit into a credit for 24 hours (48 if you factor in were the credit is invested time zone wise) A lot of things im seeing here is what they want, adding that to the fact this group is owned by a union member (thats someone walking the same hallways as the people fkn us over) no offence but its a position were you "can" be approached to take a bribe. Call me paranoid but a lot of crap just looks seriously iffy : /

Phil *****
Well a lot of PCS members want to have an official stance of non-cooperation with sanctions, etc. The rank-and-file position is for an unofficial action if we can't get official action and to argue for explicitly political industrial action. This shoves people out of their comfort zone, but needs doing to beat the bastards in government and can only be done by building a practical solidarity on the ground through direct action.

Bob *****
solidarity at this stage in the game seams like a high expectation from anyone within the benefits service, if that's what your meaning, getting the dole staff onboard and maybe a walk out? they already no its wrong, a few ive spoken to have said their wondering when the riot gear is getting issued to staff

Phil *****
The aim of this is to get dole staff on board. There are already those refusing to sanction but they are few and isolated so we need to link them up and persuade more to take the same line.

Bob *****
but we also have to make people realize they dont have to do job search online (its not an obligation of the back to work agreament) because if we don't stop people subscribing to this and it goes all the way, then they will just shut the dole as it won't be required, the battle your planning here.. their already 3 steps ahead, i reckin you have 2, maybe 3 months and then bang, the doles shut, or atleast their'll be no sign ons their, then we've lost the building, all because people told "they must record the jobsearch online" ended up doing it because they "thought" they had to, your tryna get em board, and their already packing their bags, you not see this no ? : /

Bob *****
their a few steps away from closing the door & leaving people with an 8098 number if theirs any problems (and theirs stacks of problems) first concern should be keeping the dole "office" open

Bob *****
tell me im not the only one here seeing where this is leading? : /

Bob *****
the people in the dole are lying about the job search requirements, because it isn't mandatory, their packing for another ship, and it aint your boat their boarding

Phil *****
Agreed. We can draw up leaflets to let people know this stuff...

Bob *****
essentially your obligations are to do what it says in the back to work agreement, but even if it says you "must" use that job match url rather than the old site url, It still doesn't say you must be a member, you must give them access, it just says you agree to use the site and you agree to keep a record of your job search (not agree to keep a record on the site and give them access) It doesn't say anything that their saying to peoples faces & no ones back to work agreement says what them people in the dole are saying. So you'll find the reason people are "not" being sanctioned for not using the site, is simply because they can't sanction you for not using it (not how their saying you should be using it anyway) So that 1 or 2 refusing to do it aren't the good guys, their just the wise guys that no you can't stop benefits over a rule that's not currently mandatory. but trust me on this.. IF they win this little battle their having, and we all end up having to use the internet, then the dole shuts its doors one last time, then the library's start getting shut, then the majority can't job search : /

Bob *****
So the "few" who say they are refusing to sanction "they" are fulla sh*t dude

Unless they Amend Yours with an "Action/Order" to do it,, then fk em

Bob *****
I don't even sign on a Thursday anymore, so if anything, them changing my sign on day is in breach of what i should be doing, this is how organised they are, I strongly recommend people keep filling in their book, and they demand a book each time they need one, as per their back to work agreement, and don't sign a new one "not until it is mandatory to keep a record online" and lets see them Enforce that, when over 20% of the population can't use a pc or have access to one... This is what ya should be telling people (not go sit in the dole and give em a reason to lock the door)

Bob *****
what ever they write in that "Other Activities I Will Do To Improve My Changes Of Finding A Job" that phrase doesn't cover them to put anything in that box demanding you keep a record online.. because an online record simply wont help you find a job will it?, it'll just allow them to say the job centre is no longer required, they use terminology that doesn't cover what they are demanding & ive heard them demand it, ive had it said to my face "You Must Keep A Record Of Jobsearch on the site" or bring in a copy... 

well thats what the "Looking For Work" booklet is for 
prioritise on what you can do and what you actually shouldn't

Bob *****
also.. before anyone has a great idea to sit in at the "One Stop" instead of the job centre... "Hundreds Of People have NO Payment Card" so they have to get in their and get to the machine to pay towards their council tax, So we need them doors to be OPEN as well like : /


We've been informed its now Mandatory to Register on the site
When your told to Upload your CV, that is also Mandatory  
(No Need To Upload A CV Until Your Told Told To)


The thing is THIS information is still wonky at best
and it comes Direct From the DWP!!

As of Friday 1 March 2013, where appropriate advisers can require some Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA) claimants to create a profile and public CV within the Universal Jobmatch service via the Government Gateway.

Initially, the Jobcentre Plus adviser will explain the benefits of the service to the claimant.  If they still refuse to use Universal Jobmatch, the adviser may then consider whether it is reasonable to issue a Jobseeker’s Direction to mandate them to create a profile and public CV on Universal Jobmatch.

Before issuing a Jobseeker’s Direction the adviser will take a claimant’s individual circumstances into account including whether they have access to the internet or not. Jobseeker’s Directions require Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants to take specific actions which will help them find work, and failure to do so without good reason may result in a benefit sanction.  Jobseeker’s Directions can be issued under section 19A(2)(c) of the Jobseekers Act 1995.

Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA) claimants (jobseekers) can lawfully be sanctioned for refusing, without good reason, to follow a reasonable Jobseeker's Direction to create a profile and public CV in Universal Jobmatch.  
Section 19A(2)(C) of the Jobseekers Act 1995 and regulation 69A of the Jobseeker's Allowance Regulations 1996 support this action.  

Now I Understand this "Sign Up and Create a Public CV"
I would assume you leave OFF your address AND your Phone Number
also this will help Employers Find You (this is the ONLY reason they can force it upon you)

Question is... how long till they just Take Access rather than asking?

more info Here



The World Ends While We Waste Time Trying To Make Sense Of Things

The World Ends While We Waste Time

Trying To Make Sense Of Things

Stephen *****
This might seem a bit outlandish to some people
but I thought it was really interesting and would like to share it with you guys

Tracey ****
The climate change section 6 minutes in is really alarming

Bob ******
you want alarming, see why their all keeping us to busy to see whats going on,
and even if we wasn't kept busy, none of this ever hits our news, and this is global, only Wales has really been hit here so far, and it wasn't that bad. This is just one video compilation.. the guy does 3 a week
...and were all worried about rent lmfao

Stephen ***** 

The media are in bed with the government , the bbc is a terrorist organization when you do you digging you'll uncover some naughty stuff they have been hiding , i mean look at what was uncovered lately about them protecting peado's that's small compared to what they haven't showed

Bob ****** 

very true Stephen, and me and others have offered to bring cameras, to interview people, to take this viral on a global scale, and its been almost 3 months and no one is interested. All im seeing in this group is side tracking manoeuvres on battles we've already lost, and them useless battles also cuts into money our local budget doesn't even have so local councillors can steal money policing stupid ideas and mean while we all play into their hands and get fkd from the side as well as the front and the back : /

Stephen ***** 

its a tough fight bro id just save your money and do what you can to spread any evidence you find on YouTube if you convince one person that's a victory worth fighting for they ain't ass'd about the money these people in power have all they want except our freedom , what else can they want ?

Bob ****** 

its not them though that i worry about, Its the smaller people under them (its the local people, the local councillors) their the ones with stuff to gain from all this, the REAL politicians already have what they want, its the Plastic ones, fighting in the school canteen or sports hall at 7pm, the wana be politicians. Coming up with these fantastic ideas that allow people to steal more money policing pathetic ideas that side line us from what's really happening, like that truly stupid "lets give em another reason to close the job centres" idea... that's just clearly fkn dumb when all evidence points they wana close it, their ready to run, they just need to work out how to force the whole population to learn to use a pc first & then its 0898 costaFiver costaFiver.. hi ive not been paid.. sorry i can't understand you.. this is a very bad line and your not speaking english : /

Stephen ***** 

Spot on mate and its all very distracting from the real problems we should be facing

Bob ****** 

which sadly is normally the way politics works, ive never been into politics.. but it sure stands out more when people apparently on your own team are the ones commin across with these whacked out ideas that in turn hurt us more, allow peopel to skim money off it and let the other side win. to be honest i thought i had problems and my head was else were, but this is what's happening isn't it ? lmfao.. I was told something once, and i shall never forget it "when you stop tryna make sense of it, you'll realise it doesn't make any sense" so it then changes the question to "how do they get away with it?" that one involves a lot of swear words to answer, so i'll skip it lol

Stephen ***** 

Lol I like that quote , they like to make things confusing and we loose focus on what matters , we have problems because of the corruption from our t.v's , music , food, water it all add's up slowly over time

Bob ****** 

The thing is right we all no sacrifices have to be made, we loose somethings to retain access to others, but these things we get to keep are just irrelivent, we have loads of places in bootle, charity funded & their all shut 24/7. We are being screwed over here from what i can see & no one "officialy from here" is even saying anything, granted ive not been banned yet for saying anything ive said, but also clearly i have been well and truly avoided.. they talk of direct action (Im a Video Editor) im on IMDB as a director, i was number 1 composer in the world for months, even have all my own gear for everything, ive even acquired transport and a helping hand for the gear. But im clearly to fkn honest and also impartial to be allowed to come anywere near any negotiations lmfao

Bob ****** 

If it walks like a duck.. if it talks like a duck... it'll hand ya a leaflet when your kid drags you over to it

Stephen ***** 

They hide their deeds in darkness so they can't be seen , and can't stand the truth being told so they avoid you id help you if i knew what I could do lol but i'm convinced there isn't anything we can do except expose them and spread the as much convincing truth as possible to wake people up before its to late

Bob ****** 

I don't have the moral flexibility to negotiate the way these guys do (that sacrifice thing, their dirty deals) that ability to to a deal with the other side on our behalf.. the way they say its always been done because negotiations the only way it works.. but i ask this.. all these negotiations.. all these years that its "Apparently Worked" whos interest has it been in ? its not been in ours clearly by teh state of our city and its education & its inspirational vitality that made us creative

Bob ****** 

we all know one of the issues is also Younger kids hanging round with older kids (parents making their kids look after their younger kids) and its his older brothers mates turning him into a little RAT.. and for them select few parents who "don't" do that, well they now get forced to make em share a room at home, tie them 2 age gaps together. so expect even more little rats to grow up with zero morrals to. which is another outcome of these apparent deals in our favour, no one can occupy a 3 bedroom house for more than 3 years.. also worth looking into

Stephen ***** 

Its all planned out for them bro they know exactly what to say down to the T , their agenda / interests: its all down to the big apple everything is happening for a cause there are no accidents with these people , id suggest some sources but that might broaden your horizon but many people shrug them off as conspiracies

Stephen ***** 

I know it seems outlandish , but if you will , look up bohemian grove that's an interesting subject regarding how the big decisions effect everything down to the small things

Bob ****** 

i find most political conspiracies are true, theirs just 3 or 4 paths you have to take to prove it, at which point your main link ends up in jail for playing with kids, jimi savil was a warning to people at the BBC to say nothing.. so was ken barlow for iTv. Secrets are held until a scape goat is needed, we need people talking (not ranting) they need to be telling it how it is (not what they think about it & them) after all its meant to be about us, not about them, don't they work for us, don't we pay their wages in taxes : /

Bob ****** 

people should remember these local councillors
"all promising change"
couldn't even get enough voters to get their bosses above them into number 10

Stephen ***** 

As you probably know the bbc is a private organisation we don't owe them anything yet they use force and intimidation on us , i believe that is terror , change for them maybe lol

Bob ****** 

its like the people who knock over the tv licence, ive seen someone get asked "when was the last time you USED the television" and their reply was i watched a dvd on it last night "in the box" he writes "last night" and the question he read out, actually stated "when was the last time you watched the telivision to view a live broadcast" no one even picks up on the fact they write in another box (when they checked the TV adverts were on) they never write what was on because they don't no, and the time on the form is filled in later (BBC doesn't have adverts) : / its that whole (it doesn't make sense thing)

Bob ****** 

note i got friends requests, but im having massive trust issues at the moment lmao

Stephen ***** 

np bud i just thought you had good content hard to find many like yourself who can hold a good convo on these subjects lol an yeah they make it confusing its scary if you don't know how to handle them

Bob ****** 

i find laughing helps tbh, i mean if you don't you'd only cry or get angry, i hope to make it into town on the day and with any luck i'll get to film people who are willing to talk about their problems, rather than their opinions on the leaders (their all gona be ranting and shouting here here) but what we truly need is people talking, i joined this group in hopes that people would be made aware that opportunity to take this vial is their, and im even willing to just do the recording and editing & it can be sent or uploaded anywhere they want. this was something i figured they'd help arrange and let people no that opportunity will be their (and no one at all has got back to me) but if your their and you see me and you wana rant on cam or say how you feel, then feel free, only the heart wrenching emotional truth about the suffering is gona open eyes on this one, and i can see you get that

Michael ****** 

going to the Winchester, having a pint and waiting for all this to blow over lol

Ben ******
Stand Up In Bootle & Bend Over?

Bob ****** 
its looking that way  : /

Nazis Won The War And Britain Gets Raped

Some People Just CAN'T Read Between The Lines

Paula ****

wtf this is definately part of their plan to take more kids ?

Ivor *****
we're own already Paula, research the language "legalese"..and what our birth certificates actually mean, pay particular attention to what the word "register" actually means, in comparison to what we think it means

Paula *****
yes i already know about that ivor

Paula ****
i can see more families living the gypsy life style and dont blame them tbh

Ivor ****

Paula ****

Dan ****
Someone's not taken their tablets...

Paula ****
yes the GOV havent taken their tablets

Sarah ****
i don't see one mention of children in this letter so how is it about anyone 'taking' your kids ???

Paula ****
just cos is not mentioned dont mean it wont happen

Sarah ***
talk about huge leap !

Paula ***
talk about defending corrupt evil social services

Bob ****
put our help into the hands of people they think best to meet their communities needs? why do we have no amenities or anything in our communities then : / and help from my local authority? by that they mean "One Vision Housing" ? they can't even fix a leaky roof on 2 high rise blocks after 2 years (i guess they needed more than 35 million they spent to do the initial job lmfao

Linda ****
the letter is about loans, where does taking kids come into it ....?

Sarah ****
letter does not mention me taking the the dog for a walk either linda but it might happen

Bob ****
your money doesn't come in, your electric goes, you have no nappies... one of a million things you should of clearly planned for (but a vast percentage don't) And the only people you can approach for a hand out (in my case) would be OVH.
I get were shes coming from, but its a lot more complex than just saying they want our kids and showing this letter. But think of the ramifications and who is now in charge of that problem in your own area.


 OVH cant even deal with a rent account correctly, yet your going to have the choice of ringing an 0898 number to find out were your giro is, before that you need to lend money to make that call from a company such as ovh <-- Local Authority + Local Organisation
I gather these loans will have Interest on them to, being it a company?

Did NO ONE notice how the council semi became OVH, and has all the same pull when in circles as the council have, yet even their cleaners are paid by a german company?
We have seen the council get sold.. for 50 pence per flat..
To a company that will now be dealing with much more...
(even though what they already have to deal with they can't even get that right)

Robo Cop 3 (granted one of the worst movie sequels ever made)  
but check out the first 30 minuets and acquaint yourself with  O.C.P  

Your gona find that the natzis actually did win the war,
what they sacrificed to do so was giving up on their dream of removing impurity 
(and this isn't having a go at Germany, this is having a go at the Nazis)  
ONE is a Country AND  the Other is a Political Organisation....
someone BRITISH taught them you need impurity... otherwise who does all the shit jobs
 hell.. the master race wont sweep streets & dig through to recycle trash
so if you ain't got blonde hair and blue eyes, 
just learn the workings of a brush, a mop or something  ROFL